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Antidepressant Madness

April 14th, 2009


I am no fan of Big Pharma. There are way too many people on meds these days and more often than not they are not actually needed. Often they also tend to do more harm than good. Anyone see that old episode of South Park where they put every one of the kids on Riddilin?

I mention frequently on the site about the wonders that going primal/paleo/realfood has done for my emotional hormones and emotional balance. Well lets look at the opposite way to go… the medication route.

Antidepressants are a realm where over-prescription and abuse of medication has begun to run rampant in my opinion. There is an increasing amount of evidence linking the use of antidepressants to suicide and violent crime.

The following link is a web database of crimes, suicides, shootings etc and the corresponding antidepressant drug that was involved:

Does this remind anyone else of my recent zombies post?

Very scary stuff.

Even the FDA has admitted problems with antidepressants. They have issued black box warnings about the link between antidepressants and suicide especially in those younger than 18. These warnings have been expanded in recent years to include those over age 18.

What are your thoughts?

14 Responses to “Antidepressant Madness”

  1. James

    Dude I hear you…my doctor tried to put me on paxil without me even asking. went there because I was sick. she tells me I have shortness of breath and stressed out and too aggressive. (I work on a trading floor.) She tells me I need it. I said thanks but no thanks. Yes, I am agressive. It’s not ideal, but hey, if you don’t want to get bitten, don’t get too close to the animal!

  2. Julie

    What do you think about the fact that so many people are depressed? The low-fat craze I’m sure has something to do with it as well as the toxins in the standard american diet, SAD.

    It is a shame, but too often people want a quick fix…a magic pill. I’m sure everyone of those people on that list would have changed their diet had they known the effects of antidepressants. Unfortunately, pills are mainstream not healthy living.

    After something tragic happens we look back and wonder how it could have happened, blindness….very sad.

  3. Jessica

    I read a book about gene expression that convinced me it was time to get off Wellbutrin. It was scary to think about what else that drug might be doing to me on a cellular level. Yes, it helped me with my depression, but I didn’t want to stay on it forever.
    I made a decision to be more loyal to the paleo lifestyle as I knew that was the REAL way to improve my mental health, and it worked. I have been off the Wellbutrin for a few months now with no problems at all, and that was also at a time when I dropped most of my cardio and gave up the mental “addiction” to exercise. Switched to a truly paleo diet and HIIT and life is good…I feel happy and healthy and I am drug free.

  4. Marc Feel Good Eating

    DUDE, I love that friggin picture!!!! ;-)

    Meds…..I don’t think you want to get me started.


  5. Angel

    I think that the automatic assumption should be there is some sort of vitamin or mineral deficiency. Test for that first before prescribing an antidepressant!

    You know what someone needs to do? Do some research that looks at what physical health problems tend to occur with mental health problems. Maybe then the health establishment would understand how closely related physical and mental health are.

    While I think it is possible to be physically healthy and still have emotional problems, if you don’t rule out simple stuff like deficiencies first, then you are not helping the patient!

  6. Rayna

    I know this is going to sound CRAZY to everyone here, but I’m reading a book called “Spark” which is about how exercise actually helps grow brain cells and makes you smarter. It’s a really good book but the relevancy here is that the book itself talks about studies where regular exercises actually creates more (get this) serotonin, which of course, a lack of these causes depression.

    Also- since depression causes toxin levels of stress that erode the connections between the billions of little nerve cells in the brain, over time this causes the brain to shrink and causes an even larger amount of serotonin deficiency. Exercise of course reverses this.

    so what do I think? I think that psychiatrists need to start recommending physical activity more and drugs less.

  7. meese

    It reminds me of that “Matrix” quote, “You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world. You don’t know what it is, but it’s there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.”

    In our case, the Matrix = whole “zoo humans” thing. It’s harder to be happy…when you’re in a zoo…

  8. AC

    Yeah that’s all fine and good, but any of you actually depressed?
    I don’t mean going to work sucks, wish I could win the lottery.
    I mean, best shape of your life, healthy relationships, eating awesome food that you love to cook everyday, and YET there’s still something underneath. It’s that clawing constant feeling of this is pointless, life is worthless, you’re worthless. It lurks no matter how many times you work out, take a shower, get enough sleep, count your blessings. And the longer you let it fester, the harder it is to just live.

    But yes, big pharma is the devil, but sometimes its a necessary evil.
    I’m a better, healthier person when I’ve got my serotonin balanced.

  9. Primalism

    There is a theory that ADD-ADHD (’hyperactivity’) is actually a remnant of our primal hunter-gatherer past; see:

    Otherwise, the widespread depression and anxiety is most often caused by a bad diet coupled with our modern stagnant lifestyle (lack of exercise) – even walking or light exercise for at least an hour a few days a week has been shown to alleviate depression and anxiety in a big way. Also, the general alienation caused by mass-industrial modern-living clearly contributes to the depression, ennui, powerlessness, and ‘out of control’ feeling so many modern humans are plagued by.

    By bad diet I of course mean too many empty carbs from nutrient-scarce grain along with too much refined sugar, along with the lack of good fats (MANY people these days are suffering from ‘fat starvation,’ even if they are overweight from eating WAY too many empty carbs). The brain is made up approximately 60% FAT! Thus when people starve themselves of fat with these bogus low-fat diets it clearly lowers their mood…studies have shown that people’s brain health dramatically improved by intake of omega-3 fatty acids, fish oils, and other good fat from good fatty nutrient-dense foods.

    Also, these so called ‘fat-busting’ drugs called statins have been shown to decrease the mood , memory, and overall mental capacity of people. Fat also plays an instrumental role in DNA repair and production – thus when we deprive ourselves of it too much or eat too much bad fat we are causing damage to our DNA. Also, the problems with infertility that many couples are experiencing nowadays are likely related to low-fat/bad-fat diets…many infertile women and men put on high-fat diets showed marked improvement in their conditions by being able to conceive, and it even cured infertility completely if the problem was not because of injury or something more serious like that: an old cure for infertility amongst some North American Indian tribes was the consumption of large amounts of very fatty foods for a few weeks prior to and when a couple was trying to conceive…sometimes they even ate raw fat from huge bears because they claimed it cured infertility the best!

  10. Jenny

    I suffered from depression last year, it was quite bad to tell you the truth, no suicidal thoughts or such but I struggled to get out of bed and to do the simplest thing. I looked for help in November and I specifically said that I did not want pills. My first doctor was very helpful, gave me some cognitive therapy interactive websites to work with and it was rolling along, until the website stopped working. So I went back, my new doctor saw me for 10 min, more or less kicked me out of the door with a prescription in hand with words such as “being a foreigner can do this to people”.
    I got pissed off, to say the least.
    My housemates knew all about my “condition” but I decided to not let this get in my way. I told my “condition” to bugger off, I tore the prescription to pieces and started working with my self-esteem and being more honest to people about what I was going through.
    When I eat badly, especially sugar and wheat I get worse, I cry more, I have pain (physically and mentally), I feel worse about everything. Now I eat better, I surround myself with people who love me and accept my weird moods (but I do appologise if I do something wrong), I work with my self-esteem every single day and I am going a little bit more primal everyday.
    I am still not at my best, but I know that I will get there soon enough.

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  12. rebecca

    I went through a four-year hell with antidepressants and mood stabilisers.

    Turns out that I’m not bipolar, just hypoglycemic and a sugar addict.

    I’ve been fine for the last 4 years– eating real food, exercising six days a week, having nurturing relationships, and trying to keep my stress levels down. A week of sleepless nights, cramming for exams and too much caffeine and sugar puts me right back into crazy mode, except now I know that it’s happening for a reason, and I choose to either keep going and get my exams done, or to back off, not do as well, and keep in balance. I guess I look at my moods and clarity as a gauge to see how healthy I am.

    The thing is, it takes WORK to achieve balance, not just popping a pill and passively expecting it to happen. I often wonder how bad it needs to get in order for people to want to change. For me it was the realisation that my parents were about to put me in an institution and deciding that I did not want to be crazy. Responsibility. It got bad enough that I was forced to take responsibility for myself, because the alternative was too horrible to think about.

    But change IS possible :) .
    And it is completely possible (and much more rewarding) to do it yourself.

  13. Stress

    Go to a psychiatrist and ask. Everybodys different and they may have to try different meds on you until you find whats right.

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